This is how you deal with a negative ad!

[elfs]

Barack Obama today in Cedar Rapids, Iowa:

We want to have a serious debate. But so far, we've been hearing about Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. I do have to ask my opponent: is that the best you can come up with? Is that really what the election is about? Is that worthy of the American people? Even the media has pointed out that McCain has fallen back into ... predictable political attacks and demonstratively false statements... Spending all this time talking about me instead of talking about what he's going to do. That's not going to lower your gas prices. That's's not going...to help you find a job if it's been shipped overseas. It doesn't do a single thing to help the American people. It's the politics of the game. But the time for game-playing is over. That's why I'm running for President.

Comments

[darrelx.livejournal.com]

How is whining about being picked on a good way to deal with it?

It's an american election. If you have dirt to be talked about, EXPECT the opponent to talk about it.

[doodlesthegreat.livejournal.com]

This isn't even dirt, Darrel. It's BS that has NOTHING to do with the problems the country is facing, and says nothing about how McCain intends to deal with the issues in any meaningful way besides more drilling and more tax cuts.

And there's a difference between whining about it and laughing at it for the ludicrous exercise and waste of GOP dollars that it is. Somehow, I'd expect you not to know that difference...

[elfs.livejournal.com]

It seems more of a taunt. A taunt with real substance.

As I said, there are very few men with the intellectual acumen to run for president these days. Huckabee, Clinton, Gore, and Obama are in that category.

[darrelx.livejournal.com]

But drilling *IS* the answer. Open up drilling today, and prices will plummet tomorrow... even IF it will take years to have the oil in hand.

Don't believe me? The only good thing Jimmy carter ever did was open up drilling during the OPEC crisis which in less than a week dropped the price of oil in HALF!

What's Obama's solution? Keep the pressure in your tires in check.

?...?

Seriously. That was his direct answer to the direct question of how to decrease America's dependence on oil.

He whines about people talking about his inexperience, plays the Race-card at every opportunity, and talks about idealistic concepts without *any* realistic method of bringing them to fruition.

Can you cite 1 single day out of his 143 total days he's appeared in the Senate Room where he actually did anything important?

He's a rookie, inexperienced, the MOST liberal of the liberals, and definitely NOT qualified to be the president of the United States.

Current theory is that Hillary needed someone running against her to make her look more conservative in comparison... she just didn't count on him being so charismatic and actually winning the party ticket.

[doodlesthegreat.livejournal.com]

Don't believe me? The only good thing Jimmy carter ever did was open up drilling during the OPEC crisis which in less than a week dropped the price of oil in HALF!

That was at a time prior to the energy speculation now allowed in the system. And prior to the rise of the economies of India and China. Even BUSH's people say it's unlikely to have any effect this time.

What's Obama's solution? Keep the pressure in your tires in check.

Oh, and putting $150 billion into alternative fuel research. And closing the Enron Loophole (which McCain put in). And cutting industry tax breaks. And requiring the use of EXISTING leases instead of opening up more land. He's even willing to listen to T. Boone Pickens' ideas. Next question?

He whines about people talking about his inexperience, plays the Race-card at every opportunity, and talks about idealistic concepts without *any* realistic method of bringing them to fruition.

Okay, now you're just playing Sean Hannity here. If the lies and BS you're spouting haven't choked you off by now, you have a bigger mouth than even I realized. Evidence. Bring out the evidence of what you say instead of baseless supposition and maybe you'll get somewhere. But I doubt it.

It's McCain who's spouting idealism, McCain who's trying to live on the past eight years, and brother how THOSE have done well for the country. And it's McCain who's playing the race card like it's a Black Orchid in the middle of a MTG tournament. And when he's not doing that, he's calling people who negotiate instead of whip out the military appeasers. (Gee, now that Bush is negotiating with Iran, I wonder how that looks? WHOOPS!)

Can you cite 1 single day out of his 143 total days he's appeared in the Senate Room where he actually did anything important?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Legislation

Next question?

Current theory is that Hillary needed someone running against her to make her look more conservative in comparison... she just didn't count on him being so charismatic and actually winning the party ticket.

Whose theory is this, Ann Coulter's? Bill O'Riley's? Rush Limbaugh's?

He's a rookie, inexperienced, the MOST liberal of the liberals, and definitely NOT qualified to be the president of the United States.

Just to emphasize, compared with the neocons whose butts you've been sniffing all your life, he's liberal. Compared to them, GOLDWATER is a liberal.

McCain, for all his experience, still can't tell a) the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite, b) that Czechoslovakia hasn't existed in 15 years, and c) the basic timeline of the Iraqi War.. Despite the fact that he claims massive foreign policy experience.

Experience is great, but when it's the WRONG experience, I'll take new, fresh ideas over experience any day.

[darrelx.livejournal.com]

RE: Speculation:
Speculation didn't exist in the carter administration. Right. Do you really believe that, or are you talking without thinking?

I also DENOUNCE that speculators are to blame at all... Speculators are simply following market economics that have existed since the beginning of intelligent life on this planet! It's simple Supply and Demand as related to the cost of ANY futures commodity. Less supply with greater demand equals higher prices. Increasing the supply lowers the prices. When pricing futures, simply increasing a "pending" supply lowers prices. Your INGORANCE of simple economics means that the liberal spin doctors butts that YOU've been sniffing have gotten to you.

Re: Energy problems
There's nothing to say that we can't still spend money on alternative fuel sources, lessening our demand on oil over the long term... and STILL increase our supply of domestic oil at the same time. That would be a Win-win situation. The difference is that we have the ability to increase our domestic supply which will bring the prices down TODAY... whereas decreasing our dependence won't drop the price as long as China's dependence is increasing.

RE: misstatements by candidates
Since you're bringing up gaffs stated by McCain, how about the 57 states Obama had visited so far? How about Obama stating that Jerusalum is the capitol of Israel? Everyone makes gaffs when they're tired... They're worth a laugh, but not worth considering for what the candidate really believes.

re: Liberalism
Barack Obama is THE MOST liberal senator of 2007, ranked #10 in 2006 and #16 in 2005.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/31/625886.aspx
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14428.html


'Nuff said.

[erisiansaint]

Why is liberal a dirty word? It's because of liberals that we have a 40 hour work week, social systems in place when capitalism fails, support for women and children who desperately need it, civil rights for people of different skin color, and laws in place to try to ensure that people don't starve to death on the streets. Why is this bad?

[darrelx.livejournal.com]

Wow... you are really misinformed.

Lincoln freed the slaves. Was he a liberal or a conservative?

Union lobbyists are the reason behind the 40-hour work week... and now they are just corrupt gangsters.

Support for "women and children who desperately need it" used to be provided by the head of the house... but that was back when only one adult member of the house *had* to work. Now, thanks to liberal programs that tax us to death, *everyone* in the house needs to work because no one can ever earn enough to suport others... and that snowballs down into *needing* to support women and children who can't make a living for themselves. Yeah.. liberals did that.

The only time Capitalism has failed is when it was taxed to death. Capitalism works, and is the most stable, self-correcting system in history.

yeah.. liberal is a dirty word.

[erisiansaint]

Tell me something. What is the minimum hourly wage needed for a head of household to support a family of four if NO taxes are taken out?

[mikstera.livejournal.com]

How do comparisons to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears qualify as "dirt" ?

Have our standards for American elections fallen so low that the "Throw any sh*t you can think up, in the vain hope that some of it sticks" method is what passes for political discourse?

I have a higher standard for our country's politics than that. How about you?

[elfs.livejournal.com]

And it doesn't seem to be "whining." It seems to be "taunting." As in "You morons have wrecked our country and can't pay for it. At least I'm thinking about how to pay for the clean-up of your wreckage."

[(Anonymous)]

Oh dearie me.

The Obamessiah really has jumped the Shark, hasn't he? His delusions of grandeur are starting to go to his head. Mind you, the Junior Senator from Illinois always has had issues dealing with criticism - his track record shows that the only way he can deal with criticism from mere mortals is to whine incessently, aided by his band of kool-aid drinkers in the media, about criticsm being "unfair" or "uncouth" or even "racist".

The latest opinion polls, which show McCain catching up rapidly would appear to mean that the German speech was the moment the Obamessiah went from "the new JFK"* to "the new Michael Dukakis".

[elfs.livejournal.com]

Whatever happened to "I will run an honorable campaign" or "I will not run a negative attack ad. It will not happen"?

[doodlesthegreat.livejournal.com]

The same thing that happened to "I am an honorable person who will give my name when I make asinine statements instead of being an anonymous, worthless troll trying to start a flame war."

[(Anonymous)]

*You* may judge arguments solely upon the basis of who is proposing them, but for those of us who haven't drunk the Obama-Kool-Aid, its the *quality* of those *arguments* which are important, my dear fellow.

Anyway, here is an advertisement you'll like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mopkn0lPzM8

[darrelx.livejournal.com]

Pointing out your competitor's real shortcomings (like being extremely inexperienced) is not a negative attack ad... it's FACT.

Pointing out that your competitor doesn't really have a solid platform, just a lot of ethereal concepts, is not a negative attack ad... it's FACT.

No... a negative attack ad is digging up dirt from their past and throwing that out to the media. I don't see that happening.

[doodlesthegreat.livejournal.com]

A negative ad is also LYING about your opponent. Like claiming someone is pulling the race card. Or an appeaser. Or unpatriotic.

And it's even more fun when someone does it anonymously!

[darrelx.livejournal.com]

Just what did Barack Obama mean when he was whining about the other side not liking him because he didn't look like the faces on US Currency? Sounds like he was drawing the race card, there.

Why do people know more about the racist connections that Obama has (Rev. Wright, being the biggest example) than about his political philosophy? Why are people more concerned that we have the first Black President than we are about having a president who actually knows what they are doing?

Why did Obama move to Chicago to start his political career? Because he was advised that Illinois politics were ripe for a fast-track for the right BLACK candidate. He was also advised at the same time to join the Trinity Church for the same reason.

Obama has been playing the race card HIS ENTIRE POLITICAL CAREER.

These are not lies or smears... they are FACTS.

As for unpatriotic... Obama's more concerned with aid to Africa or buddying up to France's leader than he is about bettering our own country. He wants to move us toward socialism and penalize capitalism... that's unpatriotic. While overseas, he said that there is a standing rule that Senators abroad do not criticize seated presidents, then immediately segues into the problems with the current administration. Not only unpatriotic, but VERY hypocritical at the same time.