Squick!

Apr. 21st, 2006 08:50 pm
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[personal profile] elfs
Okay, girls, now that you've had your period for the first time, I want you to turn to your father, gaze deeply into his eyes, and repeat the following:
I make a promise this day to God to remain sexually pure until the day I give myself as a wedding gift to my husband. I know that God requires this of me that he loves me and that he will reward me for my faithfulness.
Y'know, there's a fine line between giving your children the information they need to make well-informed decisions (whatever your ideological bent) and actively being involved in your child's sex life, and this little bit of tripe is over that line.

Oh, the father then responds,
I choose before God to cover my daughter as her authority and protection in the area of purity. I will be pure in my own life as a man, husband and father. I will be a man of integrity and accountability as I lead, guide and pray over my daughter and as the high priest in my home. This covering will be used by God to influence generations to come.
Okay, now I'm squicked.

Date: 2006-04-22 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norikos-author.livejournal.com
Like John Scalzi says, it's fathers fetishizing their daughters sexuality.

*ick*

No, make that _*ICK*_.

Date: 2006-04-22 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slutdiary.livejournal.com
Granted, I have a son rather than a daughter, but regardless I chose a different path.

At about that time in his life I also taught him how to be "sexually pure" - use condoms every time you fuck, communicate well with your sexual partners, look to avoid STDs and pregnancies, and please consider masturbation a ready alternative to penis-in-vagina.

I don't really want to know what they mean by "cover". Where do you find this crap, Elf?

Date: 2006-04-22 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Basically means he talks to God for her. He takes complete respobnsibility for her in the eyes of God. She is essentially a spiritual non-entity.

Date: 2006-04-23 03:19 am (UTC)
auroramama: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auroramama
Which makes it the opposite of a bar/bat mitzvah. Charming.

Date: 2006-04-23 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memegarden.livejournal.com
Presumably they don't mean meaning 6 below.

From m-w.com:

cover

1 a : to guard from attack b (1) : to have within the range of one's guns : COMMAND (2) : to hold within range of an aimed firearm c (1) : to afford protection or security to : INSURE (2) : to afford protection against or compensation for d (1) : to guard (an opponent) in order to obstruct a play (2) : to be in position to receive a throw to (a base in baseball) e (1) : to make provision for (a demand or charge) by means of a reserve or deposit (2) : to maintain a check on especially by patrolling (3) : to protect by contrivance or expedient
2 a : to hide from sight or knowledge : CONCEAL b : to lie over : ENVELOP
3 : to lay or spread something over : OVERLAY
4 a : to spread over b : to appear here and there on the surface of
5 : to place or set a cover or covering over
6 a : to copulate with (a female animal) b : to sit on and incubate (eggs)
7 : to invest with a large or excessive amount of something
8 : to play a higher-ranking card on (a previously played card)
9 : to have sufficient scope to include or take into account : COMPRISE
10 : to deal with : TREAT
11 a : to have as one's territory or field of activity b : to report news about
12 : to pass over : TRAVERSE
13 : to place one's stake in equal jeopardy with in a bet
14 : to buy securities or commodities for delivery against (an earlier short sale)
15 : to record a cover of (a song)
intransitive senses
1 : to conceal something illicit, blameworthy, or embarrassing from notice -- usually used with up
2 : to act as a substitute or replacement during an absence
- cov·er·able /'k&v-r&-b&l, 'k&-v&-/ adjective
- co·ver·er /'k&-v&r-&r/ noun
- cover one's tracks : to conceal traces in order to elude pursuers
- cover the ground or cover ground : to deal with a subject or assignment in a particular manner
()

*facepalm*

Date: 2006-04-22 04:45 am (UTC)
jenk: Faye (leia)
From: [personal profile] jenk
Let me guess...these are the same "Bible-based" "fundamentalist" folk who claim that using liturgy is "a hindrance to the Spirit" and puts "man's words above God's"? If they want to show their commitment to raising their kids in their faith, or for the kids (say, teens) to show their commitment, what's wrong with the baptism/confirmation rite?

(The cynic in me thinks they don't want to have to promise "to strive for justice and peace among all people, and respect the dignity of every human being" ... )

Date: 2006-04-22 04:46 am (UTC)
kengr: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kengr
Where'd you get the father's response?

Date: 2006-04-24 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
Daily Kos, which does not always get it right:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/4/19/152038/485

Re: The daughter's promise

Date: 2006-04-22 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisakit.livejournal.com
I find that deeply, deeply offensive. That's how you raise a victim.

Date: 2006-04-22 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-memory.livejournal.com
*shudder* It's even more squickful if you know what the term "cover" means in animal breeding.

Date: 2006-04-23 03:17 am (UTC)
auroramama: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auroramama
I share your specialized-definition squick.

Date: 2006-04-22 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slfisher.livejournal.com
What pisses me off about it is there's no equivalent for sons, and yet again, it's being made the girl's responsibility to keep the boys in line.

Date: 2006-04-22 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woggie.livejournal.com
...sounds like a marriage to me.

Date: 2006-04-22 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gromm.livejournal.com
Gee, this is exactly the sort of thing that encourages 13 year olds to "find out what the big deal is all about". I guess the loonier baptists are all just hoping for introverted children.

Date: 2006-04-23 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elxiii.livejournal.com
best advice i've ever had an adult tell me they got from thier parents at the time of puberty was.."Sex is fun, but it changes relationships and how you feel about other people and how they feel about you. so dont pass it around like a plate of cookies"

Date: 2006-04-24 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mothball-07.livejournal.com
Am I the only one who immediately imagined the pedophile fathers...

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