This will be my one braindump for Sunday. It's that important. Read it all.
Records and interviews show how the Bush administration has used its control over access and information in an effort to transform the analysts into a kind of media Trojan horse – an instrument intended to shape terrorism coverage from inside the major TV and radio networks.The New York Times: Behind Military Analysts, the Pentagon's Hidden Hand.
Analysts have been wooed in hundreds of private briefings with senior military leaders, including officials with significant influence over contracting and budget matters, records show. They have been taken on tours of Iraq and given access to classified intelligence. They have been briefed by officials from the White House, State Department and Justice Department, including Mr. Cheney, Alberto R. Gonzales and Stephen J. Hadley.
In turn, members of this group have echoed administration talking points, sometimes even when they suspected the information was false or inflated. Some analysts acknowledge they suppressed doubts because they feared jeopardizing their access.
A few expressed regret for participating in what they regarded as an effort to dupe the American public with propaganda dressed as independent military analysis.
"It was them saying, 'We need to stick our hands up your back and move your mouth for you,' " Robert S. Bevelacqua, a retired Green Beret and former Fox News analyst, said.
Kenneth Allard, a former NBC military analyst who has taught information warfare at the National Defense University, said the campaign amounted to a sophisticated information operation. "This was a coherent, active policy," he said.
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Date: 2008-04-21 01:42 am (UTC)Yes. As a matter of fact, it is. Look at the American quasi-wars with Japan in China, 1937-41, and Germany, 1941.
Which "false pretenses" did you have in mind here?
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Date: 2008-04-21 03:56 am (UTC)That rather flies in the face of allowing an informed citizenship make an informed decision (via its representatives).
It seems to me that propaganda is ok in a democracy when "propaganda" means "disseminating information" and not when it means "disseminating incorrect information in order to persuade the populace".
I think that modern English usage implies a tinge of falseness and inappropriate manipulativeness to any propaganda, does it not?
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Date: 2008-04-21 02:43 pm (UTC)I'm sorry, we don't seem to share enough common ground even to discuss this issue.
Liberation???
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Date: 2008-04-21 04:04 pm (UTC)I would call it the destruction of infrastructure and the plunging of the region into civil war.
Genocidal fascist tyranny is a very good description of Iraq in 2001. Mutually genocidal anarchy in active civil war and none of the underpinning of safety for any of the members of society is what I'd call it today. But now there is an added aspect of hundreds of thousands of dead, millions of wounded, and millions of refugees.
That is neither an improvement for the victims of the genocidal fascist tyranny nor for the world around them.
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Date: 2008-04-21 04:30 pm (UTC)What is happening now is emphatically NOT a civil war, not withstanding the frantic attempts of certain strata in the West to try and make out that it is for their own selfish political reasons.
In my book, fascist dictators getting the noose or the bullet (c.f. Ceaucescu or Saddam) is a unqualified good thing. Do you care so little for Iraqis that you would have left them to another 30 years of Saddam and subsequently Qusay and Uday and the gods knows who else after that?
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Date: 2008-04-22 05:09 am (UTC)Oh, right . . .
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Date: 2008-04-22 06:47 am (UTC)I do?
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Date: 2008-04-22 08:07 pm (UTC)When a small consortium of textbook publishers, developing materials purchased by committees of government bureaucrats, has de facto control over the bulk of K-12 educational materials printed in America today, what can it be called EXCEPT propaganda?
I like the definition used here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda) "information presented in such a way as to influence its audience."
Effective presentation of factual information is different from deliberately slanting information and omitting material which is accurate but disagrees with your viewpoint. The former is journalism. The latter is propaganda.
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Date: 2008-04-22 10:55 pm (UTC)Now, your assertion was propaganda was being used to carry on a "leftist, pro-gay, anti-Christian agenda."
Now, I don't know you, your ideology, your politics, etc. However, when I've seen assertions like this in the past, it has been my experience that they have generally broken down as follows:
"leftist" - does not absolutely and unequivocally adhere to a strict, socially conservative position
"pro-gay" - does not portray gays and lesbians as, at best, mentally disturbed, confused pawns of the Gay Agenda, and, at worst, sick, depraved animals who should be, at the very least, behind bars and kept away from "normal" people
"anti-Christian" - acts in a manner inconsistent with the absolute assumption that the only real Deity is the Christian Deity, the only real religion is the Christian religion, and all good, right, moral people are, of course, devout Christians
As I said, I don't know you, so I can't just assume that the above characterization is in any way an accurate portrayal of your particular views.
So, if you wouldn't mind, would you put your own descriptions to those terms, so that I don't end up making any false assumptions?
Thanks...
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Date: 2008-04-21 12:36 am (UTC)Good stuff from the Times today.
This is what it means to be an analyst
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