Groan. Oh, we'll be hearing about this for a while.

[elfs]

For groans: Police says the girl was lured into a long-term sexual relationship with the couple through the Wicca religion and ceremonial witchcraft and drugs.

And for fun: Y'know the old expression that some politicians will only lose their election if they are ever caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy? County Auditor Roger Fisher is testing the second part of that proposition.

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Your bias is showing...

[omahas.livejournal.com]

For groans: Police says the girl was lured into a long-term sexual relationship with the couple through the Wicca religion and ceremonial witchcraft and drugs.

Oh, gods, I can just see it coming. I went and took a look at a bunch of different sites covering this, and in many of them, one of the police sergeants on the case gave me the distinct impression of religious bias.

"She was lured into this couple's grasp through the Wicca religion...", said Police Sgt Dan Ast.

Yeah, I'm gonna believe everything you say about this case, dude.

Did these people actually do what they are accused of doing? I don't know. But when you have folks like Ast showing an obvious bias like this, I have no way of knowing how much of the "evidence" is real, and how much has been doctored. I am immediately on the defensive, and immediately skeptical of the police's side.

Good going, idiot.

Come to the dark side! We have (insert what ever here...)

[(Anonymous)]

I was all with you on that one till I read the story. Yeah, she was all of 15. The story did not mention when this started or how long it had been going on.

I wish that the focus would be on the fact that an adult abused a child and that this can happen with anything! (remember the Catholic Church sex scandals) I agree that this is going to be used to slam anyone who might possibly be considered non-main stream, even those christians who are not right wing evangelicals...

..sad, very sad.

As a christian myself I would like to apologize for what is going to happen next by a group who claim to be vaguely associated with my religious choice.

MPK

[acelightning.livejournal.com]

Sigh...

[cgmp.livejournal.com]

Every now and then someone gets caught. A mutual friend of ours did three months in the Spokane County Jail when she and her husband got caught doing their 14 year old baby sitter.(ca 1964) I don't think they became Wiccan until later.

I was to chicken to get it on with our babysitter until she turned 18. My daughter had a 28 year old boyfriend when she was 17. He was a sweet guy, and it didn't occur to me until years later that I could have had him tossed in the clink.

Sad to hear those folks got caught, but they may not have been total good guys either. We'll probably never know.

Si

[acelightning.livejournal.com]

[bikerwalla.livejournal.com]

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[jordan179.livejournal.com]

First of all, one function of religion (any religion) is meeting people and making friends. Consequently, it is often the case that people active in a religion will fall in love with people in the same congregation. This is famously the case in Protestant Christian congregations.

Secondly, some proportion of all love affairs will be in violation of age-of-consent laws. This is because we set the age of consent years past the actual onset of sexual activity, and because younger women usually go for older men. This, also, has been known to happen in various Christian congregations.

The adulterous bisexuality would be against Christian morals, but then I'm sure it happens from time to time, anyway. Unfortunately, I agree with you that -- because Wicca is an unpopular religion -- it will be the religion rather than the individual which will be blamed in this specific case.

I'll also add that the prosecution in this case has hardly helped the girl, or the two children of that couple.

[jordan179.livejournal.com]

... the law treats teenagers the same way it does 4-year-olds).

The law is an ass.

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[elfs.livejournal.com]

Y'know, it kinda doesn't matter if they were "good guys" or not. We can't point at this and claim it as an act of civil disobedience: right now the law is pretty damn intolerant of (a) banging a minor and (b) giving her drugs. (I also kinda wonder where the heck her parents are hanging out; they seem to be pointing the finger at MySpace. Whatever.)

If you disagree with the law, work to change it. But if you're breaking the law, you're not working to change it, you're just breaking it, and there are penalties to pay if you get caught.

[acelightning.livejournal.com]

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[cgmp.livejournal.com]

As one might expect in a highly dysfunctional society like ours, there is a huge gap between what the laws say we should do and what we actually do. Joani Blank, who has made a small effort to research the extent and consequences of teen age/older person sex, says that it is more wide spread and far less harmful than most people think. Plenty of cultures around the world consider sex between teens and adults normal and appropriate.

As far as the drugs go, my experience is that teens use relationships with adults to get drugs more than adults use drugs to seduce teens.

Breaking the law, preferably, but not always, in a conscious way, has been a major way social change has been effected in this country. Stonewall, Rosa Parks, the Boston Tea Party, and my personal favorite, since it decriminalized Ming and I, Loving v Virginia.

Si