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Last night, Omaha and I went out to buy her an iPhone. It was surprisingly easy. We went over to the AT&T store at the Southcenter shopping district and they were sold out. I told Omaha (and Kouryou-chan) to keep talking to the guy at the AT&T store while Yamaraashi-chan and I went over to the Apple Store in the mall to see if there were any left. Sure enough, there were. So I got into line while Yamaraashi-chan found a bench nearby and kept reading her book, called Omaha and told her I was in line and did she want me to stay in line, or would she mail-order one?

She decided that I should stay in line. The line was amiable, the Apple geeks were doing a good job of maintaining order, and everyone got their phone in due time. They were even passing out water and coffee! Omaha showed up with Kouryou-chan, and while she waited in line I took the girls over to Coldstone Ice Cream.

It took Omaha less than twenty minutes to get her jesusphone, and she was a very happy camper. I ribbed her about it. "How's your precious"? I asked.

"My phone does not bind me to the Dark One!" she hissed. She learning that there are aspects of it she's not sure she likes. Which is why, when I get the chance, I'm buying a Neo 1973 when one becomes available. I mean, it won't be nearly as cool as the iPhone, but it runs Linux and all of it, even the dialing capability, will be source-available.

Still, I have to admit that what I've seen of the iPhone is quite the amazing little gadget. I'd kinda want one, if I didn't feel like owning one was more selling my soul than even the iPod.

Date: 2007-07-01 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverheart.livejournal.com
I might get the Neo, but I'm more interested in what I can do with a phone in terms of games. Show me a great gaming platform and I'm there.

Date: 2007-07-01 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
MAME and GENS have already been ported to the iPod, which means that every video game you've ever played as a child, from PacMan to Asteroids to SpyHunter and 720, along with every Sonic The Hedgehog you care to imagine, has been ported to the iPod. If those can run on the iPod, I'm willing to bet it's only a matter of time before they run on the Neo.

Date: 2007-07-01 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverheart.livejournal.com
Believe it or not, I still don't own an iPod.

US maybe not so open to OpenMoko

Date: 2007-07-01 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideaphile.livejournal.com
Unless FIC gets FCC approval for the Neo1973, it'll be illegal here. That doesn't mean it won't work, or that you won't be able to get single units through Customs, but it probably does mean there won't be many of the things around.

Cellphone companies have a lot of control over the equipment on their networks. They might choose to just deny service to these phones, or they might wait and see if hackers exploit the phone's unusual level of software control.

It would be nice if this phone established a precedent for opening up access to the US cellphone networks, but I'm afraid that isn't very likely. The carriers clearly want to retain control over the equipment on their networks because their business models depend on this control to some extent, and by and large the FCC listens to them.

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Re: US maybe not so open to OpenMoko

Date: 2007-07-01 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
There's a strange dichotomy in the US cell-phone world. There's the Verizon/AT&T camp on one side swearing by CDMA, then there's the T-Mobile/Cingular camp on the other side swearing by GSM. This is over-generalized, but for the most part it's true. The CDMA folks? Yeah, they rely on locking you into only their handsets, only their hardware.

T-Mobile? They'll gladly sell you only a SIM-card to use in any unlocked phone. And once you've been a customer for 3 months (or if you have proof you'll be traveling out of country), walk into any T-Mobile store and they'll unlock any phone they've sold you so you can use outside SIM-cards in it. Cingular isn't quite as direct about it, but will work with you if you act like a squeaky-enough wheel I've heard.

I'd imagine T-Mobile in particular won't bat an eye at these phones showing up. Hell, they have guys in tech-support that helped me configure my Razr V3 for GPRS dialup on my Linux notebook. Over bluetooth. Sure, I had to wait on hold for an age and get juggled until they dug up the info I needed, but they didn't immediately go 'Um... I'm sorry, we only support Windows,' and hang up on me. :-)

And regardless... according to the Wiki, they do have FCC approval. Which doesn't surprise me since the components are all off-the-shelf stuff from looking over that page, so it's not that hard to get FCC certification in that case AFAIK.

Re: US maybe not so open to OpenMoko

Date: 2007-07-01 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ideaphile.livejournal.com
That's very encouraging about T-Mobile.

I don't think the OpenMoko wiki is implying the phone has FCC approval. I think it's just providing links to the kinds of agencies that approve hardware.

Given that the PC board design was only recently finalized (link (http://www.texyt.com/FIC+OpenMoko+$350+open+Linux+mobile+phone+launch+00100)) I don't think there's been time to complete the system-integration process and get FCC approval.

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Re: US maybe not so open to OpenMoko

Date: 2007-07-01 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
Fair enough point about what the Wiki is trying to imply. Hadn't thought of that, and didn't spot the article you linked to before.

But yeah, T-Mobile isn't the best carrier for reception, but for their willingness to do the 'right thing' and work with a customer to get em' just what they want affordably, I know of no better nationwide carrier currently.

Been digging through their Wiki for a'while now.

Date: 2007-07-01 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
I think I'm going to be budgeting for one of those myself, very nice-looking phone for Linux-geekery that'll be far easier to develop on than most other options.

Date: 2007-07-02 07:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fallenpegasus
Two year contract, with no hardware subsidy?

I'm sure the iPhone is very Shiny, but nothing is that Shiny!

Date: 2007-07-02 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucky-otter.livejournal.com
Thanks for mentioning the OpenMoko project - looks like they'll have some pretty cool products. The GTA02 won't quite meet my needs, since it won't even have EDGE, let alone the sort of data speeds I get with EVDO on my Treo 700p.

Hopefully the three new devices they intend to announce in September will include a phone with the features of the GTA02 + a faster modem and a keyboard. Something built to use T-Mobile's UMTS network would be great, though it might complicate the RF interface since UMTS in the US is on different bands from GSM anywhere in the world.

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