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So, how many people thought that the opening scene in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End was a dig at current administration in office? I was stunned listening to the cryer at the hangings that open the film listing off rights that had been suspended: habeas corpus, trial of one's peers, peaceful assembly. Stunned mostly because the idea that a Disney flick might actually criticize a sitting president was almost beyond the pale.

I'm sure that some would argue, "But that's what the villian would have done!" Yes, but why put it into the film that way? I'm quite sure there are any number of scripts that could have been played aloud at that moment. One that makes the villian seem to mirror our current government's obsessions is pushing the issue, don't you think?

Date: 2007-06-10 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sianmink.livejournal.com
Interesting choice. Loose Change is completely debunked shameless 9/11 Truther porn.

suspension of Habeas corpus and the other things portrayed in PotC:DMC are actually historically accurate. They really did that in response to a piracy crisis. They simply didn't shy away from any parallels to current events.

Or as someone else put it...

Date: 2007-06-10 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
PotC3 shows what happens when you don't reign in Jerry Bruckheimer (or any other BiggerBetterLouder producer) on the third movie in a series they've done, and let em' go hog-wild to tell the story how they want to.

Sure, the budget skyrockets, but if you're lucky you end up with a movie woven nice and dense with details and with the universe-crunch layed on thick, but not spread across the camera lens so much as to blind it to the story.

PotC3 seemed to tread the line between 'too many background details' and 'keep the story moving' without slipping too far to either side, IMHO.

And I still love the opening "Hoist the Colors" song, and found it amusing it got hijacked for the Strikethrough2k7 stuff here on LJ recently.

Re: Or as someone else put it...

Date: 2007-06-11 02:42 am (UTC)
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Hm, interesting. We thought the movie desperately, *desperately* needed editing, and lots of it.

Re: Or as someone else put it...

Date: 2007-06-11 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
I thought so to at first... but after seeing it a second time I wasn't able to find anything that could actually be cut, since it all told part of the story. At it is, compared to pre-screening versions many scenes were chopped down (the opening scene's song was nearly twice as long, with the boy singing between EACH chorus, for example) from what I've found.

Most of the 'rabble' speech turns out to actually have content that ties up plot-lines elsewhere, or links into stuff that happens latter.

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