Silly question:

[elfs]

Does anyone reading this LJ currently own Pendor.com? It appears to be parked.

Comments

Appears to be a bulk domain reseller in the UK.

[talisker.livejournal.com]

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Re: Appears to be a bulk domain reseller in the UK.

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

And they're quite up-front about being a ransom-style domain-name holder.

Minimum price for Pendor.com per their own website: $5000

I say trademark the world-name appropriately, use a UDRP to just take it.

Re: Appears to be a bulk domain reseller in the UK.

[blaisepascal]

Well, if Elf hadn't ganked many of the names (including Pendor) from other sources, he might have a shot. Personally, I think they are cool allusions that I haven't all gotten yet, but they hurt the ability to claim trademark status on them.

Pendor is the name of an island in Earthsea as well as the name of a ringworld system.

Re: Appears to be a bulk domain reseller in the UK.

[kengr]

So? That doesn't mean Elf can't register it as a trademark for his works.

He can even prove he's been using it for well over a decade.

Re: Appears to be a bulk domain reseller in the UK.

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

Bingo. Trademark's don't care who gets there first. More than one person can trademark Apple, for a real-world example. So it's perfectly legal for Elf to trademark Pendor in relation to his fictional universe.

The question becomes if TM+DNRC is cheaper than the $5k or not, which is vaguely questionable unfortunately. =-.-=

Re: Appears to be a bulk domain reseller in the UK.

[pendor.deadjournal.com (from livejournal.com)]

They quoted me $7500 to buy it. And the company that owned it before this Bulk Reseller wanted $3,000.

Since I'm the owner of Pendor.Net, I thought they realized I wanted it for commercial purposes. Now I realize they are just ass-hats and want buttloads of cash regardless of who they are selling to.

And in regards to Trademarks and Copyrights, the have no influence over domain names. If I were to somehow buy Microsoft.com and used it for my own purposes, Microsoft can not sue me for Trademark infringement simply because I own the domain name. However, if I used the domain name and logo and tried to pretend to BE Microsoft, they could sue me.
Ownership and use of a domain name is not trademark infringement. That is what DNRC is all about. Not letting people take your domain name just because they think the word alone is thier trademark. There have been an awful lot of people who have tried to sue over domain names in the past few years. And it simply doesn't hold water unless the owner of the domain name actually tries to use the name to impersonate the trademark holder. But, since the laws are murky, and not everyone knows Internet Law, normally the little guy just gives up.
So, unless you have a big time lawyer, who is better paid, and more educated in DNRC than the bulk reseller's lawyer (which is doubtful... it is thier primary business after all) then don't expect to win in a Trademark Suit against them. It would cost you much more that $7,500 to get it. Which is probably why they charge in that ballpark.

And before anyone asks, I'll submit the following.....
#1 - My Handle of "Pendor", does not come from Elf's written works. (Untill 2 years ago, I'd never even heard of his stuff. It was a random internet search on my handle that brought it up. I've been using the handle "Pendor" on digital message systems, and BBSes since 1989)
#2 - I will not sell Pendor.Net (I fact, I might just by Pendor.Com before the price jumps again)
#3 - I'm certainly not Anti-"Elf's Work". I'm just not what you'd call a fan.

[areitu.livejournal.com]

That reminds me of the time that someone tried to sell PWHC.com to PriceWaterHouseCooper for $5000. They shrugged and bought pricewaterhousecooper.com.

[antonia-tiger.livejournal.com]

pendorembassy.com?

Another possibility

[(Anonymous)]

www.journalentries.com
journalentries.com
www.journalentriesofkennetryalshardiketal.com

all seem to have no owner at this time.

-Falbert

Re: Another possibility

[pdurrant.livejournal.com]

journalentries.com has been registered since at least 2003:

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
domain: journalentries.com
owner: Daniel Levine
organization: DMLCo
email: domains@dmlco.com
address: 1532 Harold Street
city: Houston
state: TX
postal-code: 77006
country: US
phone: 17138616557
fax: 17138616554
admin-c: domains@dmlco.com#0
tech-c: domains@dmlco.com#0
billing-c: domains@dmlco.com#0
reseller: DMLCo
reseller: http://www.dmlco.com/
nserver: dns.dmlco.com 63.247.98.251
nserver: dns2.dmlco.com 216.212.95.187
status: lock
created: 2003-07-10 21:57:29 UTC
modified: 2005-07-07 16:10:54 UTC
expires: 2007-07-10 17:57:11 UTC

contact-hdl: domains@dmlco.com#0
person: Daniel Levine
organization: DMLCo
email: domains@dmlco.com
address: 1532 Harold Street
city: Houston
state: TX
country: US
phone: 17138616557

source: joker.com live whois service
query-time: 0.02159
db-updated: 2006-04-27 21:58:24

Price

[(Anonymous)]

Don't know if anyone tried to contact them, or just saw the price ranges. Unfortunately, they're serious about extoring some money out of that name:

From: Amy Hill
Date: May 3, 2006 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: Pendor.com
To: Ben


Hi,
Thank you for your email.
We would consider offers around $7500 USD for the domain name Pendor.com

Kind Regards,
Amy



Amy Hill
DOTCOM Agency
Traffic Names Ltd.
UK 0044 (0) 1252 360531
Premium generic domain names for sale. www.DotcomAgency.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben
Sent: 30 April 2006 22:03
To: Ian Andrew
Subject: Pendor.com

Hello,

Is there a price set to purchase pendor.com?

Thanks

You could always make a Pendor.edu... =P

[farhymns.livejournal.com]

[see: the subject]

I'm just glad serzahnk.com hasn't been taken yet. -_-; I'm pretty sure some idiot is going to go out and say 'I want money from this guy' and park it and wait for the check.

Why not Pend0r.com? or Pendor.pendor.com? Or even Ringworld.Pendor.org.edu.com.mil.gov? =D

On an off-note, you could also make it 'www.coimelin.com' but that'd be just silly. <=P