Mind Flight

Feb. 4th, 2004 09:40 am
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There has been a lot of concern recently, especially among my peers, about the exporting of programming and other information technology jobs overseas to nations like India and Korea. And while there are a lot of factors involved in this international outsourcing issue, Richard Florida has identified another: mind flight inspired by the Bush Administration.

The thesis is intriguing. If any of you watched the Mars landings recently on NASA TV, you may have been struck by the number of Asian, Indian, and otherwise "foreign" specialists working together to make Spirit and Opportunity work. We in America have always been a powerhouse of intellectual development not just because we were economically powerful, but because our intellectual freedom and spirit of scientific inquiry was the best in the world. The best and brightest wanted to work in the U.S. because here is where the action lives.

But, as Florida writes,
By thumbing our nose at the world and dismissing the consensus views of the scientific community, we are scaring off that talent and sending it to our competitors.
In the most telling paragraph, though, Florida lays it down hard. When inquiring as to why the number of research and applications development-related visa dropped 55% since Bush took office, Florida concluded
that the biggest reason has to do with the changed political and policy landscape in Washington. In the 1990s, the federal government focused on expanding America's human capital and interconnectedness to the world--crafting international trade agreements, investing in cutting edge R&D, subsidizing higher education and public access to the Internet, and encouraging immigration. But in the last three years, the government's attention and resources have shifted to older sectors of the economy, with tariff protection and subsidies to extractive industries. Meanwhile, Washington has stunned scientists across the world with its disregard for consensus scientific views when those views conflict with the interests of favored sectors (as has been the case with the issue of global climate change). Most of all, in the wake of 9/11, Washington has inspired the fury of the world, especially of its educated classes, with its my-way-or-the-highway foreign policy. In effect, for the first time in our history, we're saying to highly mobile and very finicky global talent, "You don't belong here."


If this is true, then Bush Co. has encouraged the disintegration of the middle class by discouraging foreigners from opting in to the American dream. They're happier at home than they are fighting the anti-science culture that pervades our nation.

If it's true, then you have Bush Co. to thank for massive deficits from which there will be no economic recovery worth mentioning, and no economic powerhouse to pay them down someday. Because the intellectual capital needed to run that economic recovery will not be living in the United States.

Date: 2004-02-04 06:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fallenpegasus
The problem being, tho, that in many different ways, "World Concensis Opinion" is wrong. The Bushies and their ilk are wrong in different ways, of course, but that doesnt make the UN kleptohive or the EU neoaristos right.

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Date: 2004-02-04 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
We have managed for a while to keep those two forces at least calmed and assured that we weren't stupid or going to do anything rash. Clinton may not have been the best president, but at least when the Eurodrones were pissed off it was at Congress, not the Administration.

These days, it is the administration, and they're the face our intellectual capital imports must deal with-- and no longer want to deal with.

I loathe the way the Euros treat the US like a mentally retarded step-brother while Germany struggles to adopt "US university standards", the vast bulk of Noble-winning authors continue to come out of the US, we continue to produce the greater share of agricultural, pharmaceutical, and intellectual benefits... ah, you know the drill.

But this article has a point: if the United States is no longer perceived as the place to do research and innovation, then its doomed. We have little else we can sell so dearly.

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Date: 2004-02-04 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omahas.livejournal.com
I loathe the way the Euros treat the US like a mentally retarded step-brother

And it will get worse, with states like Georgia trying to claim to their teenagers that world history starts in the year 1500, and there was no Civil War. How long would you listen to crap like that from someone before you'd walk away and talk to someone else? I wouldn't wait long at all...and neither will the rest of the world.

yup this sucks

Date: 2004-02-04 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warstoke.livejournal.com
well its not all buch co's faut tho its the whole american mind set we after 9-11 have started back towards a more puritanical science ethos rather than the broad all embracing love of tech that asia and japan have started in the last 20-30 years
and its not just because of 911 either this was starting when the whole cloning mess started in the public news and many companies are farming out bio-tech simply becasue they dont want to deal with the bad publicity in the US because of Bio-techs association with cloning or GM basicaly it sucks for us because not all of us are so closed minded me im a student and inventor ( of worthless gadgets) so i see any tech and think how could i use that and would it be cool for me i know its selfish but for the GM stuff i would love to be able to get grass for my yard that dosnt grow so fast or high so i dont have to mow the yard so much or vita-matoes like vitamin enriched tomatos or new kinds of fruit i know its all dangerouse territory now but eventualy with a free exchange of ideas maybe somday

Re: yup this sucks

Date: 2004-02-04 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/dominic-m-/
well i agree to your statement that its not "all" bush,s fault for americas current mindset. But what i do blame him for is utterly waging a a passive-agressive war between conservstives/liberals and republicans/democrats. He has utterly split this country into many little portions.crazy-conservatives, scared-conservatives , regular conservatives (whom most where bullied into either of the former parties), these groups so far have managed to set back the resources for our country exponentially within the past few years of busch presidency. he seems to continue to spur them on saying things are getting better (they arent) and pretty much saying we dont need other countries. This man is a "crazy-conservative" and i see absolutly no good coming from him so far.he uses scare tactics on everyone and everything.if he doesent like someone,he fires them, if someone is getting a point across to well then they seem to fade into the background. He has 90% of the republicans of the senate in his pocket just because he is a fellow republican and anyone who doesent do things "his" way they get cut off from the group and suffer until they bend to his will. Is it just me or does this amn sound like a dictator??? The public fear him, his lackeys are all mindless drones(whom most likely fear him), and he does pretty much anything he damn well pleases without fear of repercussions. Those kind of tactics are just down right ROTTEN. And he keeps on pushing/brainwashing the public to believe everything he is saying. I may have branched off quite a bit with this but bush(and cheynee "aka Mr.puppetmaster") are integral to the state that this country is in right now.you ARE right when you said its not all bush,s fault but ive gotta say things aint going to get better or change for the better with him in power.

Date: 2004-02-06 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warstoke.livejournal.com
i think we need a new party i call the technocrats
a party who's main goal is to benifit the govt through science in exploration of its uses with political views more moderate

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Date: 2004-02-06 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/dominic-m-/
Ive gotta tel you that idea does not sound too bad.... I bet if it was refined a little more you could easily secure all of the younger vote with unbelieveable ease. it will just be semi- difficult lring in the older folks.(kick ass idea.too bad nothing like it will ever happen)

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