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A man has been going around the Columbus, Ohio, flashing women from under his coat and then photographing their horrified or amused or whatever expressions.

It turns out this man is counsel to the Ohio legislature's speaker of the house, and a Republican.


Unsurprisingly, a gay and lesbian group in Kentucky was told to remove safe sex brochures from a student health fair at a high school. Apparently, the principal felt that materials promoting sex or "alternative lifestyles" was not appropriate for teenagers.


World Net Daily is the right wing kook paper of record, but sometimes even their rhetoric is over the top. Author Star Parker writes that the fight for gay marriage oppresses black people. Her argument is simple: there can be no doubt that over the past forty years, blacks have had far higher rates of out-of-wedlock births, divorces, and other tragedies related to poor family life than whites, and if gays get to marry, the value of marriage will be so diluted that any cachet "marriage" might have recovered among blacks will be destroyed.

Uh-huh. It's all their fault.


Perhaps even more bizarre, Sam Schulman in Commentary magazine writes that for women, "intercourse is a primarily violative act"-- a comment that echos Andrea Dworkin's comment that "all sex is rape." Schulman goes on: "there is something dangerous about being a woman in a sexual relationship with a man to whom she is not yet married. Among the now-aging feminists of my generation, no less than among their mothers, such a woman is commonly thought to be a victim."

Schulman ends with this: "Gay marriage takes something that belongs essentially to women-- a place of safety and freedom for sexual relationships-- and empties it of meaning."

Say what? Man, and I thought Dworkin was only kidding. There are people out there who take her this seriously?


And World Net Daily's sine qua non of anti-gay-marriage weirdness is from a man who thinks sadomasochists can't get married, even if they're heterosexual, monogamous, and devoted to one another, but that they will be allowed to if Massachusett's experiment is allowed to survive.


Meanwhile, another right-wing magazine, Men's New Daily, claims that gay marriage is a feminist plot. "If two mothers married each other, they would have with six sources of income: the earnings of both mothers, two sets of child support orders, and two sets of welfare and 'marriage related' tax subsidies which inure to the benefit of married families with children. Since men cannot bear children, they will largely be excluded from civil society."

Man, don't drink that Kool-Aid.

Date: 2003-11-25 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisakit.livejournal.com
Stupid people offend me. Can I get legislation limiting the rights of stupid people? Please?

Date: 2003-11-25 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenkitty.livejournal.com
*sigh* But then we have to define "stupid," and then you'll get people up in arms claiming equal rights for the stupid, and then they'll want to be President... oh, wait a minute... nevermind, the stupid already ARE President.

Date: 2003-11-25 11:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com
No, the puppets are preseident, the stupid VOTED for them.

Date: 2003-11-25 11:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com
I got a new name for Les Kingsolving, the belfry bat that said BDSM'ers can't get married... reflective of what they oughta do to him and his ilk. Same as they ought to have renamed John Wayne Bobbitt.

Les Johnson.

Date: 2003-11-26 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanf.livejournal.com
Sheesh, these guys *are* nutty than usual. I know plenty of married S&M folks, thank you very much. ;-) I do wish people were daring to talk about poly marriages though. I want a husband *and* a wife.... at the least!

you forgot the best part!

Date: 2003-11-26 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popefelix.livejournal.com
Which was when Kinsolving (sadomasochist wedding) lumped in bestiality and paedophilia with homosexual marriage. That was frickin' rich!

you'll notice I don't mention incest here - I honestly don't see a problem, apart from any potential genetic problems, with an incestuous relationship between two consenting adults.

Date: 2003-11-26 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaiah.livejournal.com
Say what? Man, and I thought Dworkin was only kidding. There are people out there who take her this seriously?

Unfortunately I lost friendships when I began dating a man. Many, many people believe this. In a sociology class I was frequently pulled into vhement debate with the instructor who was educated (the mostly female class) that any form of communal relationship with another man robbed them of all personal liberty.

Then there was the friends set I lost by entering into a marriage altogether and selling out to the societal norms even though they claimed not to be nihilistic and to grant me that some things might be worth having and pursuing.

Even more frustrating is that as BDSM becomes something more people can talk about - the issue of women who would wish to be submissive becomes, in another social set I encounter, justification for all rape and ills.

Date: 2003-11-26 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-memory.livejournal.com
Unfortunately I lost friendships when I began dating a man. Many, many people believe this. In a sociology class I was frequently pulled into vhement debate with the instructor who was educated (the mostly female class) that any form of communal relationship with another man robbed them of all personal liberty.

Shot in the dark: you went to Boston College?

Date: 2003-11-27 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaiah.livejournal.com
No.. in fact THAT is the scariest part. I was at little no-name Oregon State University. Such mentality is EVERYWHERE in academic circles.. :/ I'd like to think only Boston and Smith or Reed were spouting such nonsense.. but no.

Date: 2003-11-26 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vamp-ire.livejournal.com
I love these entries of links!

You always find things that I'm interested in.

Vamp:)=

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