It can no longer be denied: Penthouse Forum messed up my sex life.

[elfs]

It was almost two years ago when I griped that I was in my "wild oats" stage of my life just as Penthouse Forum was informing just about everyone who'd listen that being a great cocksman was a difficult skill. That didn't matter, though, because the fine arts of foreplay foreplay and oral sex were not only more accessible, they were also more relevant. I was griping because I had discovered that as women get past thirty they discover that not only do they like intercourse, they like it long and hard.

Thank the Gods for Viagra.

So what do I read today? Talk about your confirmational biases: Women say foreplay is overrated, length of intercourse is most important to women. 15.4 minutes of foreplay was comparably less interesting than intercourse. The daunting figure in the article is that, in order to be truly satisfying intercourse should last "an average of 16.2 minutes."

Good grief. I think I can manage that the second time around.

Gotta wonder, though, if they interviewed women who were getting good foreplay, or those who got none at all? When did they measure the start of foreplay?

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I just took a look at the actual academic paper. The article gets a major detail blazingly wrong (surprise, that). It's not that women didn't enjoy foreplay less, or that intercourse was preferred. What the article says is that the length of foreplay is irrelevant to whether or not a woman will experience orgasm during intercourse, and that 16.2 minutes was what most women, whether or not they had foreplay, reported they wanted in order to achieve orgasm during intercourse.

I'll just file this under "My, how time flies when you're having fun."

Comments

[moofinator.livejournal.com]

This study just leaves me with more questions. What was the median vs. mean? Was the length of time distributed normally? Were the respondents asked to provide answers with or without self-stimulation during intercourse?

So many questions, so little time.

[codeamazon.livejournal.com]

Where did you get that 16.2 minutes is the average wanted for orgasm? The link you provide suggested that was the average duration reported...not the same at all.

I am a bit surprised at the finding though -- while intercourse is the best warm up for orgasm during intercourse IME, that warm up doesn't take as long when the pump is primed, also IME.

*shrug*

This study also says nothing about orgasm outside intercourse which is the norm for plenty of women. It merely suggests women appreciate intercourse more than a generation or so were led to believe IMO. For the majority of women for whom that's true, it's hardly news. ;-)

[jenk]

What the article says is that the length of foreplay is irrelevant to whether or not a woman will experience orgasm during intercourse

Heh. And here I thought length of foreplay was more relevant to orgasms during foreplay. ;)

[sandhawke.livejournal.com]

Doesn't it just vary a lot, woman to woman? I can't see how averages could be very useful, unless maybe there was some analysis of variables. (eg women who do/don't frequenty experience orgasms without clitoral stimulation; women on top vs on bottom; vegetarians vs vegans vs carnivores; etc etc.) Then at least there would be some wonderful labels to put on people.... :-)

But seriously, have you written about viagra as a recreational drug?

[whipartist.livejournal.com]

Dear god, I'd collapse well before 16.2 minutes of intercourse. Ow, ow ow ow.

[bldrnrpdx.livejournal.com]

And then there are those of us who don't orgasm during intercourse at all. What, according to that article, constitutes "foreplay"? Kissing? Touching? Oral? Manual? But I suppose the basic premise is still true - the actual amount of time spent on foreplay is, in fact, irrelevant to whether or not I will experience orgasm during intercourse.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't see a better place to comment this, so I'll do it here - your most recent story post, Petri Dish? It appears to end in mid-sentence, at least on my end. Happens on both Firefox and IE7. I find myself desperate for a conclusion to the story, so would you be kind enough to finish it?

[lisakit.livejournal.com]

Um, ow?

Maybe it's because if they don't get the foreplay they need the time to get worked up to it...

[slfisher.livejournal.com]

I'm with Patti. 16.2 minutes would not only wear out the muscles but I'd get cunt callouses as well.

Incidentally, Elf, some of my men friends speak well of Cialis.