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[elfs]

Fundies Say the Darndest Things.

An archive of various comments and discussions taken from the very brain dead among us. Enjoy. I mean, who can argue with comments like these?

I have to consult my brother but I believe I remember him telling me fossils can be manufactured in laboratories in a matter of hours.

Germs don't cause disease anymore than flies cause garbage.

What strikes me as odd that is, given the current state of genetics, no one has compared simian dna to homo sapien. The differences should be obvious and radical.

'May the force be with you' is used by witches when they greet each other..

Comments

[featheredfrog.livejournal.com]

You left out "A poker game has hands. A watch has hands. A person has hands. Therefore all must share a common ancestor, right? That's inductive reasoning."

sigh.

btw: that link needs editing.

[elfs.livejournal.com]

Fixed the link, thanks! And you're right, that one is bad.

[duskwuff.livejournal.com]

The STUPIDITY! It BURNS!

[nbarnes.livejournal.com]

*gurgle*

Germs don't cause disease? Wiccan Jedi? Jesu Christo....

[elfs.livejournal.com]

Don't miss the one about nuclear fusion being a lie. It's all part of the evolutionary conspiracy. Scientists made it up because they couldn't explain otherwise why the sun hadn't burned out already if the Earth was more than 6000 years old.

[duskwuff.livejournal.com]

Better yet...

"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it." -- awesomestnerd

O RLY!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_candide_/]

Better yet...

"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase.

Oh, but you Do Not Know the Depths of how Wrong the fundies are...

Let's start with the very name: Second Law of Thermodynamics. It ain't. Thermodynamics is a theory. So, there are no "laws" ... it just sounded better than calling it the "2nd Principle of Thermodynamics."

Let's all start calling a spade a spade: It's the 2nd Rule of the Theory of Thermodynamics.

Now to the: "One of the most basic laws in the universe..." part. The most basic law in the universe is not the 2nd Rule of Thermodynamics. It's Equilibrium. "Seeking Equilibrium" is right up there "with Conservation of Matter/Energy". Trumps "entropy" every time.

Third, the very subject of the 2nd Rule of Thermodynamics: Entropy. Now, I know that the fundies can't explain what entropy is. Oh, they can parrot pop-sci nonsense about "disorder," but they certainly can't explain what it is, scientifically.

Can you? Any of you?

If I ask you, "What is mass?" "What is volume?" "What is temperature?" "What is electric current?" most of you can explain its physical nature. At the very least, you're all able to describe how you'd measure each of these physical qualities. So, please explain Entropy. What is Entropy? How do you measure it?

Well?

You can't, can you?

Almost all science-literate people who aren't scientists cannot explain, physically, what Entropy is, or how to measure it. But that's okay. I never really had a good grasp on this "Entropy" thang until I started studying for my PhD in physics.

As a physicist, I will give you, here and now, the 6 sentence explanation of Entropy:

1. There is no way to measure Entropy, only changes in Entropy ... and even then, only indirectly.

2. Entropy is the "big-world" manifestation of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.

Average the speed of quintillions of molecules, you get Temperature.

Average the collisions of quintillions of molecules, you get Pressure.

Take the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, apply it to quintillions of molecules, and average that, you get Entropy.

3. Entropy is therefore really a measure of "information loss" ... which is what every other (non-thermodynamic) form of Entropy in physics describes.

[duskwuff.livejournal.com]

Read the quote carefully. The writer appears to have forgotten that there *is* a "giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy". We call it "the sun".

[http://users.livejournal.com/_candide_/]

Oh, I did read the quote. I've said much the same thing. :D

My response? I was just trying to make a point, enhancing Elf's original point.