Elf Sternberg

I wouldn't propose dismissing something without any consideration, since that's the defense of ignorance against new ideas. I'm open to considering the idea that the universe was either created, as many theists say, or came spontaneously out of nothingness, as Elf!'s hypothetical antitheist is proposing. But then I'd be expecting sufficient evidence to be presented. My original point remains that if neither side can provide proof it becomes a matter of opinion and faith rather than facts. That's fine, lets just recognize it as such.