Elf Sternberg

It's not the "same bunch of cretins", because I'm not in one bunch of "cretins" (the ones opposed to flag burning), and I'm in the other bunch of "cretins" (I'm all for using any technique that works for prying OpInt and StratInt out of captured AQ et al warriors.)

If flushing paper down the john, or being interviewed by shorts-wearing women who have red paint on the inside of their legs (another neat trick used by the interviewers) will work, GREAT. Prisoners may have the right to not be physically tortured (which works poorly at best anyway), but NOBODY has the "right" to not be offended, no matter how severely.

The people who get murderous over symbolic offences are the true "cretins" here, and there are plenty of such cretins in Western society as well, and I am utterly sick of them.