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Apr. 26th, 2004 10:31 am
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While there's a lot to admire with the way the Japanese have managed to reconstruct their country along Western lines since the ruling class there consciously decided to do so back in 1880, there is much there to not admire. For one thing, when reading manga I ocassionally stumble upon some really disturbing material that, while not mainstream, makes Larry Welz or Reed Waller's "underground" material seem tame by comparison. Even the wilder American and European artists, like Luis Ruyo or Michael Manning, look restrained.

Today, though, there's a very disturbing story out of Japan about the three hostages who were held in Iraq a couple of weeks ago. You might remember them: three non-governmental organization aid workers, all of Japanese citizenry, held by some previously unknown group in Iraq. The terrorists threatened to burn them alive if the Japanese government didn't withdraw its troops. Everyone wondered if the Japanese government would blink.

The world held its breath, the Japanese government stood firm, and the hostages were eventually released unharmed.

As it turns out, the Japanese government didn't care much for the hostages in the first place. When the hostages got home, they were confronted with a banner reading "You are Japan's Shame" (New York Times; registration required).

By ignoring the government's warning that Iraq was to be avoided, the three young people who went to Iraq in the hopes of doing well defied authority, the "okami", and that's something that Japanese sensibility cannot stand. They had acted selfishly, in pursuit of interests that were not Japanese. The government has charged them the cost of their flight home, and may impose other costs related to securing their release. An editorial in the Yomiuri Shimbum said that might "deter other reckless, self-righteous volunteers."

Date: 2004-04-26 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warstoke.livejournal.com
i enjoy anime and manga and yes i can even get into the tenticle and deamon stuff that i think you were refering to but there cultur is different
the main thing about it i find strange is that up until the 80's a japanees girl showing pubic hair would have basicly gotten her blacklisted from the media. but if she was shaved it was ok but no hair
lol dose that make sence

Date: 2004-04-26 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kakoukorakos.livejournal.com
Huh, I didn't know what had happened to them after the release. That attitude does seem a bit calloused too, especially in light of the fact that the hostages were "just trying to help" or whatever their motives.

But the way you worded that last paragraph reminded me of what's become the policy, and I think rightly so, of most search & rescue operations here in the Colorado mountains. Backcountry skiers and other adventurers now must pay all fees related to rescuing them if they get in over their heads. This includes paying for the hours logged on medevac and national guard helicopters, compensating the S&R teams for their time and expenses, and anything else. There are also punitive damages added on the top, IIRC, if said adventurer in need of rescuing blatanly ignored a warning to not enter an area under particularly dangerous conditions.

Maybe the UN or whatever charities or journalistic agencies the former hostages were working with should cover the expenses. I'd have thought it was totally unreasonable and tacky to treat the hostages like that (making them pay anyway), save for the way you worded it. It's an important question though, whether the taxpayers of any country should have to pay for their civilians doing risky things that require gov't assistance, when the gov't has officially warned them against doing such things outside of the official business umbrella.

I was rather angry after finally getting around to viewing the Daniel Pearl murder video recently. That barbarians could behave in such a way. But what Pearl did was excessively stupid, I don't think anyone with an iota of horse sense would venture into such a lion's den, much less a Jew trying to get the inside story on the Jews' mortal enemies (it was pretty naive for him to think he could accomplish something other than commiting suicide by muslim terrorist). If things had gone differently and I wasn't sitting here mortified at his murder, I would be outraged if American taxpayers had footed the bill to bail him out and fly him home. Feh.

Date: 2004-04-26 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunra.livejournal.com
Pearl wasn't just a Jew. His father is a prominent Israeli citizen (who has lived in the US for a long time) - and Israeli citizenship is transmitted to all children of Jewish Israelis (and very hard to get rid of; this has caused issues: all Israeli Jewish men are required to do military service at the age of 18). I would be VERY surprised if Pearl wasn't an Israeli.

Neither nationality nor religioun are in any way appropriate reasons to kill a person.

But for a man with such Israeli connections to go to Pakistan, at that time... ...it certainly speaks of folly.

Shame

Date: 2004-04-27 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/dominic-m-/
Have we lost all decency people..compl;aining about our government footing the bill of a hostage. I dont care who they are...they are a person just like you and me, yes they may be dumb to put themselves into that dqangerous situation but is it not the governemnts job to protect their people no matter what even if the people dont listen. Thats why criminals are innocent till proven guilty, they are givin the benifit of the doubt by the government solely on the fact that they are a citizen. Yes it sucks that if we continually do this crud it,l show up on a tax somewhere but I think we can afford to help a few fellow men/women out of a bad situation. Again they may be doing stupid crap but they a person too.(not replying to you specificly shunra just following topic path)

Re: Shame

Date: 2004-04-27 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunra.livejournal.com
I am NOT complaining that our government paid for his rescue.

I am complaining that a man with such ties with an enemy of Pakistan would put himself in the mercy of Pakistan's forces of lawlessness.

As long as Israel's being a nuclear power and relying on intimidating its rivals thereby, its citizens should not be stupid enough to visit there.

This is different from the Japanese situation, I think.

(And our government is doing a very bad job of protecting its citizens, but that's a whole nother matter.)

Re: Shame

Date: 2004-04-27 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/dominic-m-/
I know your not complaining about what I wrote about...Thats why I stuck what I did in my last post. Also on your subject I understand where your coming from and "get" your opinion on it, But I dont agree wholeheartidly. otherwise good point.

Re: Shame

Date: 2004-04-27 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kakoukorakos.livejournal.com
Have we (as a culture in general) lost every shred of personal accountability? I think that, by all means, a government should work to rescue its citizens. But consequences of stupidity should be passed along to the stupid, if at all possible. That's just the consequences of misbehavior.

Re: Shame

Date: 2004-04-27 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/dominic-m-/
But then again who doesent make a stupid decision now and then?

Re: Shame

Date: 2004-04-29 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kakoukorakos.livejournal.com
Some choices are more stupid (=deliberate) than others. I've accepted consequences for many stupid decisions of mine. I feel terrible if others are so much as inconvenienced by my stupidities, and try to make it up to them. I feel it's rather inconsiderate to expect others to pay the price for one's stupid actions, is all. "Everybody does it" never was a good excuse to absolve one of inconveniencing others, and it never will be.

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