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Glenn Beck was in a fine mood this morning. He had his blackboard out and was showing the world how the unrest in Egypt is part of the "progressive agenda" to bring down capitalism. He stated blandly that just weeks before the manure hit the fan in Egypt, progressive elements were holding a large conference in Egypt, teaching their fellow travelers how to have an uprising. "Capitalism will not go peacefully. The Marxists know it!" Beck thundered. "You have to see it on a map. We'll have it on the website later today. You have to see it on. the. map. The places where these uprisings are happening are not coincidental. It's all a part of the plan. These are places that have oil. And when the price of oil goes through the roof, capitalism will fall to its knees. That's what these progressive have been waiting for!"

Beck also said that it was "unfair" for some Democratic senator to compare the Fox News "big lie" strategy with that of Goebels, because the Nazis didn't invent the technique-- American progressives did! The Nazis were just more honest and courageous in its use, I guess.

All of this "there's a worldwide conspiracy to bring down freedom and democracy and capitalism, and every world event shows it!" stuff might be trite by now (and Beck's numbers are now half what they were a year ago, although having 1.6 million watchers is still respectable), but you have to see Andrew Brietbart's web site, "Big Peace" where they're also reporting that the Obama administration dispatched Bill Ayers to Cairo to foment revolution and give rise to an Islamic Caliphate. Another writer pointed out that lefties hate America, and as evidence added that "the homosexual" Michael Foucalt praised the Ayatollah over the Shah in 1979, thus raising the Pink Swastika dogwhistle.

This is the noise machine that informs our electorate. Charming, eh?

Date: 2011-01-31 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirfox.livejournal.com
did you catch the latest bit of fox news creative geography?

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t276/cruisertwelve/foxegypt.jpg

apparently, we've already invaded and deposed egypt's leader, so what's the problem?

Date: 2011-01-31 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shunra.livejournal.com
Wait - is that an attempt to call the financial system in Egypt capitalism? ::headdesk::

You'd think that the second-largest annual foreign aid subsidy from the U.S. would be a clue about how robust the Egyptian market is. Not to mention the routine corruption among officials and - oh, never mind. Beck's not interested in reality.

Date: 2011-01-31 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ionotter.livejournal.com
Wha...I..bu...ho...ha...gek! BUH! GAH! CHEEEE!! grrrRRRGGHHHEEEBLERARRGHAFLAGABBLEFLA-FLA-FLA-FLA-FLA-ZubzubzubZEEEEEEE!!

Date: 2011-01-31 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
Not "latest." The photo's either a Poe or a recycle: Twitter: Debunking Rumors and Misinformation on the #Jan25 Uprising (http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/30/egypt-lies-i-read-on.html).

We ought to hate Fox for the mistakes they make, not the mistakes we wish they'd made.

Date: 2011-01-31 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
See my reply to sirfox: the image isn't real.

Date: 2011-01-31 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ionotter.livejournal.com
Glenn Beck seriously makes me want to cry.

It's all the more painful that my mother left her mind and took her body to Glenbeckistan, where she worships at his altar every day.

Date: 2011-01-31 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ionotter.livejournal.com
The calm, rational part of my brain is saying "Thank you!", but the emotional part of my brain is hiding under the tablecloth, trying to melt into the kitchen tiles.

Date: 2011-01-31 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
In that case: icon

Date: 2011-01-31 10:32 pm (UTC)
ext_58972: Mad! (trainwreck)
From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
Are you seriously telling me that Glenn Beck thinks (if that's the right word) that Egypt has Oil?!?

AAAHHHH!!!!!

(Natural gas and some coal, yes: but oil?!?)
Edited Date: 2011-01-31 10:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-01 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrf-arch.livejournal.com
Presumably Mr. Beck's logic has it that Egypt has Arabs, and the United States has acquired oil for the last six decades or so by squeezing Arabs, therefore, Egypt has oil. Just ... squeeze harder.

Date: 2011-02-01 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com
... man what

No, seriously, he hasn't thought this through. Does he think 'leftists' want to destroy capitalism because they like dysentery better?

Date: 2011-02-01 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_candide_/
Your subject is right on point, Elf.

Notice how Beck and his ilk have added, "progressive," to the list of words that they use as a synonym for, "Communist." It's the 1950's all over again.

That nobody is calling this man a liar, and proving that he is one, point by point, sickens me.

Worse, it sickens me how Beck is taking peaceful-pro-democracy-demonstrations and twisting them into the exact opposite, soley for his own power. It shows, to me, to those in the US who still adhere to reality, and to everyone else in the world, that Fox "News" and its minions are opposed to democracy (and not just Democrats).

In summary:

THE STUPID! IT BUUUUUUURNS…

Epypt and Iran

Date: 2011-02-01 10:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm a little worried about the situation in Egypt. The Iranian revolution started out as a democratic people-power overthrow, and while Iran is now (sort-of) democratic, it's certainly not what most of the people involved (especially the women) wanted from the revolution.

Re: Epypt and Iran

Date: 2011-02-02 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_candide_/
From what I've heard, the Iranian Revolution was theocratic from the start. Khomeni didn't exactly threaten the students into following him. They did so willingly.

That's one thing that Americans not only don't recognize, but often willfully ignore: dictatorships cannot rise to power without a "critical mass" of the population supporting it, at least initially. Some dictators were even democratically elected and popular initially, only grabbing ever more power as time went on. Mubutu in Zaire. Mugabe in Zimbabwe. Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. And even a certain central-European dictator from last century was elected to his position, by people who supported him because they thought that he'd keep the Commies away and put the Left on a short leash.

I sense that the Middle-Eastern people-power revolutions are likely to play out like the people-power revolutions in the Phillipines and Central+Eastern Europe did. Oh, they may not be friendly to America, but not liking the US does not make a country a dictatorship.

Date: 2011-02-03 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirfox.livejournal.com
I'm glad to live in a world where news media stupidity and irresponsibility hasn't gotten this bad, yet. I'm wondering if Poe's law is appropriate to invoke in this case, or if fox news's history of flubbing basic facts is too far from fundamentalism to count.

On a totally separate note, have you read Paolo Bacigalupi's "The Windup Girl"? (http://www.amazon.com/Windup-Girl-Paolo-Bacigalupi/dp/1597801577)

It's set in a post-petroleum crash bangkok, one of the characters is japanese-manufactured "New Person" struggling with being abandoned in a society that barely tolerates her type, and is abusive of her pre-conditioned urges to obey. There are also some minor characters described as "Boy-girls", not in much depth, but they seem to be some sort of mixed-gender hybrid. I found it a good read.

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