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Some things are just beyond ridiculous. Let's take Bill O'Reilly. On Saturday, O'Reilly posted Keep Christ in Unemployment, in which O'Reilly writes:
America remains the land of opportunity, but you have to work for it. The unemployment rate for college graduates is 5 percent. For high-school dropouts, it is 16 percent. Personal responsibility is usually the driving force behind success. But there are millions of Americans who are not responsible, and the cold truth is that the rest of us cannot afford to support them.

Every fair-minded person should support government safety nets for people who need assistance through no fault of their own. But guys like McDermott don't make distinctions like that. For them, the baby Jesus wants us to "provide" no matter what the circumstance. But being a Christian, I know that while Jesus promoted charity at the highest level, he was not self-destructive.

The Lord helps those who help themselves. Does he not?
Jesus Christ, no, "The Lord helps those who help themselves" is not Biblical, Bill-o.

On the topic "Does the Bible say 'The Lord hepls those who help themselves?'", the website Blue Letter Bible reminds us that the American originator of the phrase, Ben Franklin, was most definitely not a Christian, and his take on life was "If man was not able to help himself, then man was hopeless."

There are so many examples of the Bible saying exactly the opposite that it's hard to know where to start:

Romans 5:6, 8: For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly....But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Proverbs 28:26: He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, But he who walks wisely will be delivered.

Jeremiah 17:5: Thus says the LORD, "Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind And makes flesh his strength, And whose heart turns away from the LORD.

Peter 5:5 "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble"

You could go on and on. Luke 15, 2 Corinthians 1, there is any number of places where mankind is depicted as hopeless and helpless, and God succors anyway.

But the most obvious one is The Sermon on the Mount:
But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
The conservatives at Fox have become idolators of Mammon.

(I know, I know, the Sermon on the Mount is probably a late addition by 1st century liberal enemies of true Christianity.)

And what is this "He was not self-destructive" bullshit, O'Reilly? He freakin' turned himself over to the authorities when his followers were ready to fight for him, played the court system according to his rules when he could have escaped, and finally surrendered himself to die of crucifixtion. An ultimate act of self-destruction if ever there was one, in the service of his fellow human beings!

I'm not a Christian. I don't believe this myth. But O'Reilly says he does-- while he blasphemes it at every turn. When will American Christians realize that they have long been led by the Pharisees, already?

Date: 2010-12-13 09:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kitsap_charles
We don't need indoctrination
We don't need no thought control
No Glenn Beck blackboards in the classroom
Faux News leave our kids alone

Hey! Bill-O! Leave our kids alone!
All in all you're just another prick on the wall.

Date: 2010-12-13 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
Billy cuts people's mics when they're making it obvious what a liar and fool he is. He's afraid of a real fight.

On those grounds, I suggest you change the last lyric to:

All in all, you're just another prick without balls.

Date: 2010-12-14 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com
O'Reily is just fragging WRONG.

Ten million Americans didn't just decide to start being lazy and got fired for their troubles. *Their jobs disappeared.* Those jobs are *gone*. These people were laid off not because they were lazy but because their employers decided not to keep them employed.

O'Reily is beyond out of touch, and it's pissing me off that nobody calls him on his cowpies. He should be dragged into the projects and left there to try to fend for himself for a week. It probably won't change his entitled, privileged, white-male-douchebag outlook, but one can hope.

Hey... didn't Scrooge say something about 'God helps them who help themselves?

Date: 2010-12-14 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gromm.livejournal.com
"When will American Christians realize that they have long been led by the Pharisees, already?"

Roughly at the same time that the Pharisees actually stop pretending to use the bible and preach lies about what's in it.

But it's said that politicians think that religion is useful, so...

Date: 2010-12-14 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The unemployment rate for college graduates is 5 percent. For high-school dropouts, it is 16 percent.

How many of those college graduates are now holding jobs that the high-school dropouts used to hold? Of course unemployment is going to skew toward less-qualified individuals; that's a no-brainer. Underemployment also needs to be considered if he wants to draw that kind of conclusion.

Number 127

Date: 2010-12-18 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_candide_/
These people were laid off not because they were lazy but because their employers decided not to keep them employed.

…or because their employer ceased to exist. Lehman Brothers, anyone?

Date: 2010-12-18 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_candide_/
Funny, but I have a great deal of education. PhD in physics. 11 years cumulative software development experience, with the past 6 in financial software. I've had recruiters calling me. The first few months that I was out of work, I had an interview a week.

I've now been out of work for a year and a half.

If I try to tell prospective employers that I'm job-hunting constantly, … working hard for opportunity, as Bill O'Reilly says … the interviewers do not praise my hard work and initiative, they question my character. If I try to look for work at a lower salary … something I'm sure that O'Reilly would praise as "working your way up" … I'm called desperate, and dropped as if I'm radioactive.

Unemployment falls $80 short of covering my bills. And that's if I decided not to eat. Fortunately, [livejournal.com profile] epinoid has been taking care of groceries, and is willing to shoulder even more of our expenses. Not everyone has a life-partner with a good job and financial reserves.

And not everyone has a PhD plus 11 years of experience plus a willingness to scale back on their salary.


I wanna kick Bill O'Reilly so hard in the balls that they shoot up and out his goddammed-fucking throat and choke the piece of shit to death.

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